This work was developed and/or presented in the context of the exhibition ‘DUST, DIALOGUE AND UNCERTAINTY - Slow Knowledge in Design Thinking and Practice,’ on view December 5, 2014 - February 7, 2015 at the Pratt Manhattan Gallery in New York City. The exhibition was curated by Ana Paula Pais and Carolyn Strauss of slowLab. Several interviews were part of the exhibition in New York. Ana en Carolyn interviewed me on slow governance in the context of participatory systems.